• Up Close and Personal with Dr. Joe: An Interview (Part II)

Up Close and Personal with Dr. Joe: An Interview (Part II)

By Tim Shields


When you began this work, did you ever imagine you’d be seeing the results that you’re seeing? Has this always been your vision or has it exceeded your vision?

I always believed that all of these supernatural and amazing miracles we’ve currently been witnessing were possible. But now that we’ve seen people heal themselves of chronic health conditions, create objects out of nothing, and have super cool synchronicities, opportunities, new jobs, new romances, as well as new adventures appear out of nowhere, I want it to become the new normal. I want this new way of creating life to become a truth for a collective consciousness who is really stepping outside of the current conventional beliefs.

I saw this potential future a while ago, latched on to it, and consistently believed in it. Of course, I’ve changed a lot in the process, but the vision has always been the same, and that vision is that I believe in human potential and I believe in possibility. I think if you get a group of people together as a community—bound in the spirit and energy of love—anything is possible, and I’m just going to keep unfolding that idea. And I want to keep dreaming more about what I see as truly possible.


You’ve said this last year has profoundly changed you. How has it changed you and who are you becoming?

Quite simply, I’m waking up in my dream and I’m waking up more in my life. I’m waking up because number one, it inspires me to do the work with more passion. It inspires me to continue to raise the bar and push people a little further. It surprises me because things I never thought would change—never thought would heal—are now happening. As people evolve their understanding of these principles, they’re beginning to affect the very nature of reality and matter. I think my ability to explain it—my ability to create the environment where people feel loved, taken care of, and supported—is getting better. And people who have been committed to this work have been seeing the fruits of their efforts.

My passion is asking the next big question and then witnessing the answers manifest in real time, so it’s really mind blowing. What is keeping me up at night now is no longer the challenges in my life. What’s keeping me up at night is, Wow! If this is possible and that is possible, what else is possible? As a collective, we’re starting to take this work to another level, so it’s changed me because I’m more inspired to continue pushing the work in new directions. I’m more inspired to take people to a greater place. I also now know people are understanding it more deeply and as a result it’s making a difference in people’s lives. It’s a good place to be as a soul on the journey.  


What’s the next possibility that’s keeping you up at night?

I have so many ideas about visiting a future that’s happening in the present moment, as well as placing indicators and specific material things in that future so that we know when we get to that future, we know we created it. There’s just a whole host of things I want to keep happening and at deeper levels—stepping so outside of this dimension in the present moment that you can experience another aspect of yourself that is taking place in the present moment, seeing more than we currently see, training the brain how to open up to a greater level of information and downloading that information so that you know your future.

Now that people can sit for extended periods of time, I’d love to take a community of people, have them connect to the field, open their heart, activate the very center that creates the mystical, and let them begin to really, really understand themselves in a much greater, much more expansive, much more mystical, and much more profound way. I don’t want to spoil it, but there’s more to come. It’s an evolution, though, and that’s the key.


If you could give only one piece of advice to the people doing this work, what would that be?

Don’t stop doing the work. It’s just a formula. Also, understand that if you keep learning and you keep reviewing the science behind what you’re doing and why, the how will get easier. It’s not like the principles don’t work—it’s just that we’re often the ones in the way of progressing. I’m starting to realize, though, that it’s not who we are that holds us back; it’s who we think or believe we are not that is stopping our desired future from happening. When we give that up, we find that we have always been who we have always wanted to become—and when that happens we always say the same thing: Once I understood how to get beyond myself, it was so easy.

So I want people to stay with it every day and practice until they understand that it’s their own journey of becoming. It’s not about their wealth, health, freedom, a new job, or a new relationship. It’s really about the initiation of knowledge into experience so that we can finally become the very person we are after. Once you become the dream, you don’t care about what’s happening in your outer environment, you don’t care about what people think, you don’t care about what’s going on in the news. You just let go, and I think that’s a good way to live our lives—to know that the future we are creating is coming. So keep learning, keep doing the work, keep challenging yourself, and keep reminding yourself of who you want to become.


What’s your greatest discovery to date in doing this work? What are you most surprised about?

I know now that the closer you get—you as a consciousness to the consciousness of the unified field—the more you connect to greater and greater degrees of oneness and wholeness. That means there’s less separation between two points of consciousness—you, a free-willed individual, and the objective consciousness of the unified field. The less separation between those two points of consciousness, the less time it takes to appear in your life—whatever that it might be for you. As a result of this principle, we’re seeing instantaneous, miraculous things going on. I now know that when you change something in the field, when you get good at this, you not only change matter, but you change the field itself. Now, the next time people connect to that possibility, it will be more responsive to others. And we keeping seeing this over and over again. And when people witness these supernatural occurrences in our audiences, you just can’t go back again to being the same person with the same beliefs.


How do downloads occur to you? Can you talk about some of the recent downloads you’ve had?

It’s really simple. My downloads come when my body is tired or fatigued and when I’m super happy and playful. When I’m not trying to do anything or think about anything, my brain is kind of pausing from thinking or analyzing and I move into in alpha, sometimes even into theta brain waves. It’s when the door between the conscious and the subconscious mind is open. And if I’m in the wrong time zone and I’m really sleepy and goofy, and feeling really good about myself and my life, that’s when I just take a thought—any thought—and look at it another way. I ask myself the questions, “Am I really seeing this from the greatest view? Is there more for me to learn?” I don’t do anything but stay with the thought and without trying to make anything happen, I let go, and then I just start to get new information.

I taught a lot of new things in Cancun because I was getting downloads on what I should teach and how I should teach it weeks before the event. In Cancun, I wasn’t preparing any notes, I wasn’t writing a script. I just had some experiences and understood on a profound level what they meant, and in connecting to those downloads, I just wanted the opportunity to have people experience it themselves. I thought quite a bit about how to explain it and as a result, it actually worked.

So I get downloads in all kinds of moments. I get a lot of downloads right during the event, which is really important for me. When it happens, I just trust it, go with it, and I never try to analyze it. In Cancun, I think I did a pretty decent job in taking those complex understandings and being able to simplify them. And of course—with those crazy, mystical experiences I had before Berlin and before Cancun—it was the perfect priming for me to know that if we progressed far enough in Cancun, I could get to these new teachings by the end of the week, and that’s just what we did.


Do you mean a specific mystical experience or you just had a download?

At a certain point during and after Michael Beckwith’s Revelation event in April 2018, I started to have very strong interactions with these fractal patterns. I started seeing all those wild patterns and everything started opening up to me. Here is an example of what I mean.

During this particular mystical experience, I was giving a teaching on the stage in Berlin and simultaneously experiencing the future, all while I was looking at fractal patterns occurring in the room. At the same time, I was observing that reality from my bed—laying there semi-conscious—laying there half awake and half asleep—and actually creating what I was teaching from my bed. So I was experiencing my future while creating it in the present moment. I was conscious and I was observing myself.

In viewing the fractal patterns that I was seeing in Berlin while I was teaching—I realized at the end of it deep within, something was observing me. I realized that when I looked at one fractal pattern (because I saw this in Sardinia as well) that something on the other end was observing me. That something was me! So there was this past, present, and future happening simultaneously—and I’m observing it all in the present moment. That’s a window to other dimensions and I wanted to keep that window open. And so it happened a few more times.


Those fractal patterns—do they communicate information in language or do you just merge with them, and as a result your brain transduces it into information? In other words, how do the fractal patterns communicate actionable information?

It’s not a communication, it’s an experience. I surrender when I see them and I allow my body to get really sleepy and keep my mind awake. I just stay awake and wait for the fireworks to begin. They produce lucid visions that seem more real than the world we live in. And since experience enriches the brain and produces emotions, my brain experiences the inner event as if it’s more real than the reality we live in, and my body feels a powerful emotion (but it’s really not an emotion, it’s more like an energy) which I feel as electricity in my entire body. Recently I have been just tuning into that energy in and around my body before I go to bed and then I just stay open.


At the end of your life, what would you like your legacy to be? What will you be most proud of?

That I contributed to the evolution of humankind to such a degree that we rely less on things outside of us to make us happy or heal us. That I helped people connect on a deeper and more profound level to themselves and the power within them, and that people begin to apply these principles to such a degree that when they change how they think, feel, and act, it produces immediate effects in their lives. I want people to become skilled at doing this to such a degree that they can heal others and change the world we live in. I want this to become the new normal.

If you missed Part I of this story, you can read it here.

Tim Shields is the author of “A Curious Year in the Great Vivarium Experiment”. Learn more and watch the book trailer at www.acuriousyear.com now.




  1. Jane Dunkin, Magenta Hummingbird August 2, 2018 at 11:23 pm - Reply

    My only regret is that I could not join the group in Cancun … Santa Fe was amazing !! and I am anxious to go again. Thank you for having the vision, and for holding the vision Dr. Joe !!

  2. Terri August 4, 2018 at 6:59 pm - Reply

    The New Normal creating a New World. How wonderful!!

  3. Leda Lu Muniz August 4, 2018 at 7:32 pm - Reply

    Thank you Dr. Joe to allow me be part of your dream ! I ‘m so comitted to this work ! Is there more ? I’m in ! In gratitude

  4. Barbara Simon August 11, 2018 at 9:33 am - Reply

    Thank you Dr. Joe and your Team, helping me getting awake and stay in my dreams, believes and follow the new and unknown.
    Inspiring me and all my soroundings achive the wounder of life.
    Thank you for all this Moments i got, get and will get.

  5. Rema August 11, 2018 at 10:40 am - Reply

    Sharing this information with as many people as possible.
    Ready for a weeklong event.

  6. Phil Stenning August 11, 2018 at 11:56 am - Reply

    Thank you Dr. Joe!! Your work is truly inspiring, amazing and life changing. My wife and I hope to be with you in Brighton, UK when you visit in November 2018. Can’t wait.

  7. Cathy Preston August 11, 2018 at 1:26 pm - Reply

    Well Dr. Joey Thank You for holding this lantern of light and love ahead for us and teaching us to shine in our own lives; so others may recognize that light and reveal their own light and love. All of us shining and sharing this love and light and strength into all dark places. Just for the fun of it all : )

  8. Alessandra Laudito August 11, 2018 at 1:42 pm - Reply

    Grazie Dott.Joe,lettera colma di insegnamenti per sviluppare maggiormente la connessione…l apertura del cuore come un fiore con il Divino…l amore ….la condivisione…l aiuto reciproco….la compassione…..sono piena di gratitudine ….per queste esperienze….
    Io che con le mie meditazioni ho vinto…la mia allergia al Sole..allergia che mi impediva di esporni al SOLE(Sole che ho tanto desiderato e amato fin da piccole)…e se accadeva dovevo fare cure forti di cortisone….che creavanoin me forti problemi…vorrei tanto fare una testi.onianza…il mio LUPUS NON C E’ PIU’…
    ….oggi in spiaggia all una…in acqua…felice…sana ….libera….
    Ho visto che ha vissato diverse date in Europa ma non in Italia…
    L Italia ha bisogno di conoscerla…la prego torni in Italia…l Italia ha bisogno di lei…piu di ognialtro Paese….
    Alessandra Rocca Laudito.

  9. Greg August 11, 2018 at 4:12 pm - Reply

    Thank you so much Dr. Joe for your amazing work, passion and ethics! Tim, great detailed questions/interview. Really appreciate it. I love that Dr Joe is building the community.

  10. Janetta Bouman August 11, 2018 at 4:51 pm - Reply

    I dont know if my comments will be read by the administration of the events but i will give it a try.
    I am very disappointed with my attempt to get scholarship program. I am on fixed income and have applied many months ago but told did not get my application now i am thinking is this really fir everyone or just high income people who can afford all the high costs for not only retreats but all materials. None of them are near where i live wjich makes even more cost. If this is reallly wanting to give to humanity there is a large group not included.
    Janetta Bouman

    • Cindy August 13, 2018 at 10:16 pm - Reply

      There are no materials needed to buy. It is nice to go to one of his programs in person, but you don’t need to. You can just pick up Dr. Joe’s latest book, or all of his books at the library for free. It’s about our personal practice at home…not about going to his programs.

      You can also subscribe to his channel on YouTube and watch tons of excerpts of his talks, as well as interviews, how-to explanations and testimonials. All for free.

      You can also subscribe to his publisher’s newsletter (Hay House) where they often offer his books for as low as 99 cents. They also, several times a year will GIVE AWAY his books for free. I received the digital version of his “You are the Placebo” either for 99 cents or completely free from Hay House. Can’t remember which. They will offer you several books for free from different authors including Bruce Lipton and Gregg Braden and I chose Dr. Joe’s book.

      Also, to save yourself money…. if you choose to buy his books or CD’s, buy them from iTunes or Amazon etc because they are quite a bit cheaper than buying them directly from his website.

      As well, I believe that after 2018, he will no longer offer his Progressive (beginner) Programs in person. Instead they will be web-based videos (likely recorded from an actual progressive program) for much less cost since you are buying only his program, and not airline tickets, hotel and food. He already has several digital programs for sale on the Hay House website for $500. If you join a special program on Hay House, you will save 10% on the cost of those video programs.

      So, there are ways to get Dr Joe’s teachings either completely FREE or at reduced prices. It is not just for the rich.

      • Brian Foy August 15, 2018 at 7:31 am - Reply

        Thank you Cindy for your explanation. I am 80 yrs old and have been searching for what Dr Joe is teaching for many years. In fact since earl Nightingale days, which is a fair while ago. Many teachers have since said what he taught back in the 1950’s like Neville, Wayne Dyer, Bruce Lipton, Gregg Braden etc etc. “You become what you think about”. But I have always had the feeling deep inside that it works for some, but not for me.
        I only heard of Dr Joe a week ago and have spent so much time watching/listening to him and watching many unbelievably beautiful testimonials. He teaches me how to make it work. Gives me the science behind those statements, and I am now so excited to hear ALL that he has to teach.
        I happen to live in the very same locality that the October intensive week will be held on the Qld Sunshine Coast, but felt sad discovering that I could not apply as there is a waiting list as well as I would have to have done one of his courses anyhow to be eligible to sign up.
        So I have been thinking for a week that I have to miss out, but am thrilled to learn from your reply above that I can still “do it all”, but not live with the man himself. Maybe next year.
        Thanks again Cindy.

  11. Krystalle LeBray August 11, 2018 at 9:42 pm - Reply

    Hello Dr. Joe: As always it is a delight to read about you and your experiences.
    I have a question that may be abit out of the “norm” sphere of things that needs clarifying.
    Plant Medicine – Ayahuasca – the experience is suppose to change your life and your mind..
    Friend or Foe? individually and collectively to the collective conscious way of thinking?
    I heard it is intense, sometimes frightening as issues from the past surface to heal and let go of.

    Just interested in your professional perspective on the subject of Ayahausca – Plant Medicine.
    Clear old paradigms, allow a person to create a new future from a clean state of consciousness.

    In gratitude…..Krystalle LeBray – Victoria, BC

  12. Tammy August 12, 2018 at 12:15 am - Reply

    As a Yoga teacher if I had to plan a class I could not teach it. I have no idea what will come out of me at each and every class and I totally trust that. They are never the same as I teach in Alpha and just say out loud what I am doing. The kinda disappointing side to this, lol, is that I have a hard time during illusion life. Would be great to remain in that state all day long. I am working on that. Great interview and thank you for sharing your insights, although I know you do not have time to read these comments, I know you know. Namaste and Sat Nam, Tammy

  13. Christine August 12, 2018 at 3:37 pm - Reply

    Dr. Joe – ROCK ON!

  14. Jen Irurita August 12, 2018 at 9:32 pm - Reply

    Wow! What mind blowing stuff and what far-reaching possibilities! So exciting to read about your mystical experiences & so thrilled for what is to come!

  15. Ham Brower August 13, 2018 at 1:04 am - Reply

    Am new to your site and information. But, not new to the idea of expanding and connecting with consciousness. I was fortunate enough to have been gifted with a spontaneous Kundalini Awakening some 20 years ago. I would like to understand it all better and hopefully re-connect with the healing energies of that experience. What would you recommend as the best way for me to connect to the community and participate in a class or conference? Where should I begin?

  16. Anne Gossett August 23, 2018 at 9:27 pm - Reply

    Thank you so muchTim Shields for interviewing Dr. Joe Dispenza. I am once again inspired by Dr. Joe’s work and words. I burst out crying (happy tears) when I read the line, “We’ve always been who we’ve always wanted to become.” That spoke to me so deeply I was thrown. I have read Dr. Joe’s first three books, and am in the middle of his progressive online workshop. I LOVE it!! I began with the Placebo meditation in December of 2017. I “do the work” every day. Back in April, on a five hour flight, while others either slept or watched their devices, I did two separate (hour + long) meditations, and was reading “You Are the Placebo.” I chuckled to myself as I thought I’m probably the only one studying brain scans (in the book) and meditating in here.

    In June, while meditating,I started having these kind of energy surges (?) go into my body. During the creation part of the meditation, my core muscles tighten, I tightly inhale and I hold it, my back arches, for 3-6 seconds. Shortly before the “surges” began, also during the creation part, my hands started to raise a few inches, and stay elevated until it’s time to release it back into the field. This is my body doing it’s own thing, and it happens every time I meditate now. I just go with it. I love it! I look forward to the pineal gland meditation in September. Thank you Dr. Joe. You are AMAZING!

    Anne Gossett

  17. Patricia E Aguilar September 16, 2018 at 4:46 pm - Reply

    I took part of the Spain retreat and had a brief experience in the mystical, of course my mind is quite analytical and failed to totally surremder in that experience of the pineal gland meditation. I came back home and couldn’t make sense of the message or experience, however every time I tried it there was a fear to surrender. Last week I finally surrendered and found out the mystical of the experience, yesterday I kept doing it and trusting the unknown, that quantum field of the creator, and this morning I emerged in this beautiful energy where I just knew my energy centers were starting to operate at a higher dimension, the energy kept coming and coming and here I am in total AWWW of the creator and with a sense of humility and gratitude. Many, many, thanks Dr. Dispenza.

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